tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post8406155119694421990..comments2024-03-28T16:50:48.709-05:00Comments on Two Men and a Little Farm: WATER PREPPING AFTER WEST VIRGINIA1st Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-79540637196983649112014-02-26T12:08:09.370-06:002014-02-26T12:08:09.370-06:00http://www.hurherald.com/cgi-bin/db_scripts/articl...http://www.hurherald.com/cgi-bin/db_scripts/articles?Action=user_view&db=articles_hurherald&id=55076<br />Appears that only 'local' media is still on the story. <br /><br />Listen, after another 6" of snow this week, I'm ready to strangle the groundhog & have a little roast...and I'm a vegetarian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-287985852001514532014-02-26T00:23:51.429-06:002014-02-26T00:23:51.429-06:00WOW! First of all, thanks for the wonderful comm...WOW! First of all, thanks for the wonderful comment. I was curious if it was still a problem there. As with so much of our 'instant gratification/sound bite' media, once the big story is replaced by something else, we don't get the rest of it or the outcome. Wow, how scary is it that the hotel doesn't warn guests? I mean, not everyone watches the news. There is no way I would chance drinking that water. I saw your pic you posted, holy cow, that is scary. <br /><br />It really did make us think about making sure we always have water on hand, just in case. You never know what could happen right? Wish we had a creek, but we'll make do with what we can. <br /><br />Thank you again for your very kind words and we'll be glad to call you BFF's, welcome! :-)<br /><br />Oh, and stay warm! I blame it all squarely on the stupid groundhog, ha. <br />1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-64565946419733298542014-02-26T00:19:25.560-06:002014-02-26T00:19:25.560-06:00For some reason, I just noticed that my reply to y...For some reason, I just noticed that my reply to you was just listed as a regular post, not a reply. I wasn't sure if you got notification of replies so I wanted to make sure you saw my original reply. 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-85890414979569398092014-02-25T19:41:40.591-06:002014-02-25T19:41:40.591-06:00The crazy part about the WV water crisis, is that ...The crazy part about the WV water crisis, is that it is FAR from over. :-( <br />Well over a month now, and the water has still not been labeled "safe" to drink. The officials will only tell residents to use their own judgement. <br />We stayed in Charleston (where the spill actually happened), not even 2 weeks ago. I brought our own bottled water for our dog, and for the kids to drink if they got super thirsty. (We were only there basically to sleep for 1 night before travelling on the next morning.) Throughout the whole hotel, there wasn't a single sign 'warning' guests of the water situation. It was very eery. <br />I can't upload a pic in the comments, but I took one that my friends used on their online newspaper, it's at the bottom of the page... http://www.centralwestvirginian.net/5/post/2014/02/news-127.html<br />What you can't see in the picture, was a sticky 'film' or something that was leftover when I poured the water out. <br />Now, how are the local residents supposed to function? Even with continued daily water drops, this is still a major problem. This has affected nearly 1/2 of WV residents (mainly because Charleston, being the capital, has a larger population), mostly metropolitanites. (I think I made that word up) They depend on the city water supply. As you get out of the city and into the rural areas, most people do have water wells. But, how are we to know about the future risks? What if the contaminated ground water does end up getting into our wells? <br />Like you, we're keeping plenty of bottled water in stock, using gallon jugs. We have a running creek that provides us with 'flushing' water for the toilets. We also have to use that every time the wind blows and the power goes out... no power, no water pump. Love the reader comments & ideas, too. We'll need to get started on more basic prepping, after we get out of this stinking never-ending winter of snow hell. <br />I'm SO glad I stumbled on your blog tonight! Love it! <br />(confession: I've gone back through and read *entirely too many* of your posts & I'm pretty sure we should be BFFs now :-D )<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-67027615404557885722014-02-17T23:12:56.482-06:002014-02-17T23:12:56.482-06:00That's a very interesting idea. I like the id...That's a very interesting idea. I like the idea of it being filtered by sand. Our soil is so bad, so much clay, digging down deep enough to a large tank would be difficult. But I am intrigued by this. It's not something we'd do right away, but if you end up doing it, I'll be watching closely. Very smart thinking!1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-72880472024186879082014-02-14T15:01:43.537-06:002014-02-14T15:01:43.537-06:00I'm pondering purchasing a potable water safe ...I'm pondering purchasing a potable water safe rubber pond liner, large enough to lay down over a spot in the yard where the land slopes down from the street and back up towards the mountain. Add sand, then gravel over it. Have a few 1500 gallon cisterns buried under it. Where the water can collected and flow to the tanks, filtered by sand. Use for agriculture and potable if need be. Such as a Berkey Filter or Equiv. This way it blends in with the surroundings.The Stay @ Home-Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06102175625149771801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-24026077862689502042014-02-13T11:49:50.540-06:002014-02-13T11:49:50.540-06:00I do run the water through a drainable downspout t...I do run the water through a drainable downspout to catch the first water off the roof. And siphoning is easy until it starts getting to the 700 gal mark. I have made a water pump from Mother Earth News that uses pvc pipe and a check valve. It's not high volume but it gets the low water out.<br /><br />And for some really pretty tanks-check out Art Ludwig's book Water Storage. <br /><br />Now I need to start going through the links here to get more ideas. :)rheatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13106202307295596177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-70127481123907320342014-02-12T23:45:23.851-06:002014-02-12T23:45:23.851-06:00WOW! First of all hi and thanks 'fellow Texan...WOW! First of all hi and thanks 'fellow Texan'. Oh my gosh, that drought was horrible that year. I have seen some setups with the square containers and the cage around it. You sound like me, I'm kind of low tech to make it easy and less complicated. So you just run the water right into the tanks? That sounds easy enough. I thought it was hard to get water out unless things were elevated, to use gravity feed, etc. I'll do some research, you've inspired me to make it easy. And there IS a tractor supply just down the road from the farm, ha. 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-2769763967019687832014-02-12T23:39:11.099-06:002014-02-12T23:39:11.099-06:00I've heard about those Berkey filters. They s...I've heard about those Berkey filters. They seem really nice. Great idea about the vinegar jugs we use a lot of vinegar and always have extras. You know I didn't think about that with the tub. At the farm we just have one tub as well. Hmm...might have to think about options. Perhaps an outdoor shower, ha. Actually, the waterbob would be close to the window, and it's up high (from the outside) so we could use waterbob water to create a shower if necessary, ha. 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-89600511777525476582014-02-12T23:33:49.575-06:002014-02-12T23:33:49.575-06:00Hi Melissa!!! Glad I could help remind. You'...Hi Melissa!!! Glad I could help remind. You've reminded me of so many things, I'm glad I could return the favor, ha. 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-3790185462482559272014-02-12T23:32:48.291-06:002014-02-12T23:32:48.291-06:00We're going to talk to 2nd Family about that s...We're going to talk to 2nd Family about that soon. I THINK they have a hand pump but I'm not 100% sure. Thanks for the suggestion. Being so rural we can definitely have outhouses, and it's funny this is coming up, I had not given that much thought until recently, for some reason. Thanks for the link, I have saved her blog as a favorite. You know the power grid is the thing we worry about as far as something happening. 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-73173881793997581322014-02-12T23:24:32.720-06:002014-02-12T23:24:32.720-06:00Wow!! You do have to live consciously thinking ab...Wow!! You do have to live consciously thinking about water conservation. Those are some large tanks you have. Yes, we've had rain and I do think about all of it running off into the ground. Of course, it filters down to the well water, but still, we need more above ground. <br /><br />And yes, definitely doing a drip style irrigation system in the garden. <br /><br />Isn't it amazing how we so often take water for granted? I bet you don't!!! :-)<br />1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-83200784774981418502014-02-12T23:21:18.063-06:002014-02-12T23:21:18.063-06:00Thank you for that link. Great info. I've sa...Thank you for that link. Great info. I've saved it too (in addition to the ones above). A composting toilet. Hmm, you know I never thought about that, but that's not a bad idea. Sort of a back up. Of course we do have septic so we don't have to worry too much but it's a good idea. I will have to think about that, thanks!!!1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-9046625463323691832014-02-12T23:19:12.079-06:002014-02-12T23:19:12.079-06:00True and done!! Thanks for hosting the giveaway. ...True and done!! Thanks for hosting the giveaway. Fingers crossed! :-)1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-31059690644215240632014-02-12T23:18:30.830-06:002014-02-12T23:18:30.830-06:00Wow thank you for your great comment!! It really ...Wow thank you for your great comment!! It really did make us think. I watched on the news when that happened and people were going crazy to get to water. Really seemed like watching an end of the world movie, it was crazy. <br /><br />You know, great point about the types of water. Luckily we have a septic tank so black water does go there and disappears. Grey water is a good choice for watering plants (we are very conscious at the farm especially) about what we put down the drain. We could easily disconnect under the house to divert grey water elsewhere. I'll have to remember that (knock on wood we won't ever have to use it for that). 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-65122811114292291702014-02-12T23:13:23.038-06:002014-02-12T23:13:23.038-06:00Oh how I wish we had a natural spring! Not many o...Oh how I wish we had a natural spring! Not many of those in this neck of the woods but oh well. We'll make do with other plans. As for water storage, in those big 5 gallon cooler type bottles, I've heard different things. Anywhere from 2 years to 5 years to "in an emergency you might drink it even 20 years from now". Ha. Not sure I'd try that. Luckily, we use it so it doesn't have time to go 'off'. We'll see!!1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-28051554913818460362014-02-12T23:10:39.122-06:002014-02-12T23:10:39.122-06:00I've been looking. I kind of what to make our...I've been looking. I kind of what to make our own, I am looking for some olive barrels, you'd think in Houston I could find some but I haven't yet. I watched a neighbor in town make one and so I know the plumbing part, just need to find the right barrel. 1st Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861609647607912193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-453785748180791122014-02-12T08:36:30.271-06:002014-02-12T08:36:30.271-06:00I live up the way a bit(Austin-ish) from y'all...I live up the way a bit(Austin-ish) from y'all and use rainwater collection for all my needs. (The drought year was just tough and horrible.)<br /><br />I just run pvc from my gutters to the black water tanks you can get at Tractor supply. The largest one is 1500 gal and I have 3 500's for livestock watering. My 16 sq. ft. roof-metal-can keep me in plenty of water when there's any rain. And I don't filter/treat it anymore and just use a clear plastic hose to siphon out water as I need it. I'm just running at a very low tech level so there's less to break!<br /><br />Oh, and there are the 300 or so gal containers that have a pipe cage around them that you can get off or Craigslist. Just search water containers and see what pops up.rheatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13106202307295596177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-86606146133157734552014-02-11T17:11:46.510-06:002014-02-11T17:11:46.510-06:00I have multiple containers in the house that get r...I have multiple containers in the house that get rotated as I do canning. I do not use milk jugs but rather vinegar jugs, juice jugs, and the occasional 4 gallon water jug. And a Berkey filter. There is also a rain barrel in the back (and plans for more). And during summer we can use the pool water. The one thing we cannot use is the waterbob. There is only one bathroom in the house and I cannot block tub access in that manner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-2347125715005177772014-02-11T07:54:26.169-06:002014-02-11T07:54:26.169-06:00I have been thinking about this since the disaster...I have been thinking about this since the disaster and yet have not been out to refill our 5 five-gallon jugs after using them for various projects to rotate the water out. Thanks for the reminder and inspiration to get to the stinkin' store ;-)Melissahttp://evergrowingfarm.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-40100290469904023822014-02-10T23:14:57.128-06:002014-02-10T23:14:57.128-06:001st Man,
You can never have enough water for the ...1st Man,<br /><br />You can never have enough water for the family.<br />I'm giving away a water filter on my blog, come over and register :-)Sandy Livesayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06183449816586125720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-54045081044531300892014-02-10T14:28:06.088-06:002014-02-10T14:28:06.088-06:00My first thought was tanks like FionaG talked abou...My first thought was tanks like FionaG talked about. The well you share is probably run by electricity for the pump and the pump is probably submersible. Don't know if there is a way to also install a hand pump. My other thought was a windmill but one would have to have a well dug already. If you are allowed out houses, it might not be a bad idea. The only thing about those is that they can also harbor varmints i.e., snakes, spiders, ants, etc. This lady's blog talks about going off the grid per se and brings up a lot of things in becoming self sufficient. It might not hurt to take a look at what she has done. http://frugallivingonthewatkinsranch.blogspot.com/2014/02/this-weeks-goals-and-menu.html And, she still continues to do these things. We all should be thinking along these lines in case a terrorist would take out one of the electrical grids & we'd all be in the same boat. Have a great week. Joanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17079320105957390525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-77293044494451284842014-02-10T12:48:58.336-06:002014-02-10T12:48:58.336-06:00We have no town water, our only water is what we c...We have no town water, our only water is what we collect in the rainwater tanks or pull from our creek which flows only in torrential rain. A few years ago, when we were in serious drought, our water hole became a stagnant pool. We got through the crisis but saved real hard to purchase 2 more 25,000 litre tanks, this added to the 26,000 litre tanks we already had. So now we only use these. We don't treat the water at all. Every now and then we send a sample to be tested. No city pollution for us but smoke from bush fires and from our wood burning stove, possum and bird poo, leaf litter etc, it all gets washed into the gutters and sometimes the overflow and strainers don't prevent things from entering the tank. Despite all this, the water is always given the thumbs up. Just think about all the rain you've had over the past few months. Also, while we're on water conservation, it's really good that you're putting in a dripper system for your garden. That can be your biggest water consumption in summer, it certainly is in this household. Composting toilet also a good idea though watch out if you have a power blackout......it cuts power to the fan and then all the stink comes up (a neighbour has one) or there's the dual flush toilet. No matter how you cut it, you're looking at $ but worth the investment.FionaGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044498829299165675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-31958277391043298552014-02-10T10:56:01.278-06:002014-02-10T10:56:01.278-06:00There are some useful articles on water storage an...There are some useful articles on water storage and treatment on <a rel="nofollow">http://foodwaterandfire.ludlowsurvivors.com/TSOW.html</a>. You could also think about putting in a composting toilet. Even if it was set a bit away from the house and not what you mainly used, it would be good to have something already set up and running in case of emergencies perhaps. Moonwaveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16018956740090192993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3552387675026716797.post-58806531636778588092014-02-10T10:47:42.293-06:002014-02-10T10:47:42.293-06:00There are 3 types of water white (potable), grey a...There are 3 types of water white (potable), grey and black. White water is potable and safe for drinking, cooking, bathing, brushing teeth, etc... Grey water has come in contact with soap, fats, greases, oils, human/pet, hair/ fur, skin/ dander and possibly cleaning supplies chemicals. Black water is pathogenic and has come in contact with fecal matter.<br /><br />For potable water-- You can set-up and store jugs or buckets of water with a few precautions.A 1/8 teaspoon of bleach per gallon water makes it safe for consumption. Rotate every 6 months to ensure fresh supply. Homeland security provides an excellent tutorial<br />http://www.nationalterroralert.com/safewater/<br /><br />Any water diverted from sinks and tubs is called grey water and can be used for watering the garden as long as you know what you are putting down your drain. You can get a grey water holding tank along with filtration to scrub out residues before use. http://www.sustainable.com.au/greywater-treatment.html<br /><br />Any water from septic or toilet is called black water and CANNOT be diverted for use without considerable risk of contamination and health risk. You can invest in elaborate water reclamation for the treatment and purification blackwater. It takes planning and investment. It would be worth it for those seeking off grid self sufficiency. http://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/blackwater-recycling-systems.html<br /><br />Regardless of where one begins with the process, water, next to air are our most valuable resources. It is good to be prepared and know how to deal potential contamination and shortages. Good post FM!!Tonya @ My Cozy Little Farmhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12289024681312440621noreply@blogger.com