Monday, November 17, 2014

MYSTERY FRUIT TREE: PERSIMMON

I mentioned recently that 2nd Family's "R" took a brush hog and a tractor and cleared some new areas on our property.  So last weekend, before the cold settled in this weekend, I decided to explore the new spots.  

I was just casually walking along when I found this tree:

Update:  It's a Persimmon tree
It was COVERED in fruit.  

Now granted, we couldn't eat any of it because it stayed on there past what we would presume is harvest season and shriveled up and went bad.  Apparently this is when they ARE edible.  Thanks for that info.  Hey, it's a wild fruit tree of some sort!  It's in a spot on the property that no one has been able to get to for probably twenty years or more.  Being Fall, all the leaves have already dropped off so it was so clearly visible and neat to see.

Update: Persimmons on a tree
I smashed one open and this is what it looked like.  There seemed to be two or maybe three seeds inside, they were elongated.  I didn't notice an identifiable smell but it did smell sweet.  These are growing without any human intervention, including watering.  They are growing near a wet area of the property, a kind of natural pond site, so the roots are probably able to get plenty of water.  They obviously survived during the great drought of 2011.

UPDATE: Persimmon!
The best part of all?  There was another tree, just like this one, with the same kinds of fruit on it, and it was at least 30 or 40 feet tall!  We love the thought of some naturally occurring fruit tree on our property that we can harvest from but before we start Googling recipes, we need to see what it is. 

SO...anyone hazard to guess what fruit this might be?
And if you do know, any good ideas for its use?

UPDATE:  THANK YOU all for the ID, we need to learn our wild foraging identification, LOL.

36 comments:

KCD said...

Looks like persimmons from here. They stay on the tree until after the leaves have fallen off. They are really not good to eat until they are really really ripe.

Linda said...

I will second the Persimmon. Here is a website chock full of recipes http://allrecipes.com/recipes/fruits-and-vegetables/fruits/persimmons/ (Google is my friend:)

Gail said...

Persimmons! Even edible now if they look like the one broken open. I'm surprised the wild game has not eaten them.

jaz@octoberfarm said...

i agree with everyone else. that's what it looks like to me.

JW said...

Awesome find! It's encouraging to hear you're still stumbling upon edibles this long after buying the place. Gives me hope I may yet find something on my own place.

Texas Rose said...

As everyone else said, Persimmons. Isn't it great when Nature gives you a surprise gift?!
I have a Persimmon tree in my yard. I love them and so do the mockingbirds!

FionaG said...

Definitely persimmon. There are two types, astringent which will make your mouth pucker if you eat them too early. The fruit needs to be mushy like the one in your photo. By the way, I agree with Gail, the one in the photo looks perfect. The other variety is non-astringent which you can eat like an apple. When ripe they are nice and sweet and I make all sorts of things with them from cake to jam. I let mine go almost black before I start scooping them out. The trees are beautiful, doing the whole deciduous colour thing and the fruit ripen off the tree as well. A great score!!

Delores said...

And you've got two trees....that's terrific. You need the guy with the 'bush hog' to visit more often lol.

Wm Zinn said...

Definitely American persimmons, and they are perfect for eating now! Seeds can be a bit of a pain though. Get them before the o'possums do!

Tewshooz said...

How lucky for you to have 2 persimmon trees on your property! Enjoy...and eat them now,

Marcia said...

I soon as I saw the closeup I knew it was a persimmon. Best eaten now after a frost. No good before then. How lucky for you to have 2. I'd love to have one but no such luck.

Texas Rose said...

When I went to the grocery store this afternoon, I noticed that the persimmons were priced at 1.28 EACH! So you have some valuable trees!

Anonymous said...

As some others have said, they are probably still good--give them a try! Native persimmons do need to be ripe to the point of mushiness to be good (so I hear; the one time I tried them they hadn't really reached that stage so were still sweet-but-astringent). I'm borderline jealous... I don't have any at my place, but I've ordered some for planting next spring. Bon appetit!

texomamorganlady said...

Back home, in Kentucky, we say "Puckered up like she had a green persimmon". Better a bit overripe than too early, lol!

1st Man said...

You had the first answer, ha. Thanks for that! I didn't realize that might already be ripe and ready. They looked too ripe to me but that apparently means they are good. Dang. Hopefully I can get them this coming weekend.

1st Man said...

Thank you! Isn't google wonderful? Ha. Thanks for the link. SO many recipes....I love it!

1st Man said...

Awesome!! Thank you, I hope I can get to them, they just seemed overripe but now I know better, ha.

1st Man said...

cool! I can't wait to get some, if I'm not too late.

1st Man said...

Yep, this is in a spot, the widest spot on the property (think the wide end of a slice of pie) and there is is a pond site in th middle that sort of kept us from traversing from one side to the other. Then when they used the brush hog to carve a trail (he knew where the wet was and wasn't, I was able to get to this. Very cool. I think that's about it for fruit trees but there could be other grassy/weedy edibles. I'll have to explore more next spring.

1st Man said...

LOL! It's like orange gold, ha. It's a first for me, and just so cool that it's there on the property and has been for years.

1st Man said...

It was a pretty tree, I can't wait to clean up around it and just make it look better. I need to learn how to prune them too, I think it's a bit wiry, ha. I think these are the astringent kind so you have to wait until ripe. I am hoping to get some this weekend. Fingers crossed! Thanks!

1st Man said...

Ha, I totally agree. He cleared all sorts of new paths for us and now I can keep them mowed with the zen machine and they will just sort of turn to grass paths, nice for walking and enjoying. SOMEDAY, we hope to have the pond dug out it would be large, about an acre. That will be nice. yep, two of them, though this one is the better of the two. The other was big and didn't have as much fruit. But that's ok, something else for me to work on down the road.

1st Man said...

THANK YOU! And "American Persimmon", I will look that up. Thanks of the info. The seeds looked 'interesting' but hey, I thought they were over ripe, I had no idea that they were almost perfect. Just hoping they are still there this weekend.

1st Man said...

Thank you and I will definitely try to get them this weekend.

1st Man said...

Well thank you for that. Ah, so a frost makes them good too? We just had one, and another one possible tonight. Then 70's this weekend. I hope I can get them this weekend.

1st Man said...

Awesome! Thank you so much for that. We were just thrilled beyond words to just find them randomly growing. We love when nature makes ti work, ha. Thank you again!

1st Man said...

Now THAT is a funny saying. Thanks! I'll have to remember that (and now part of me wants to at least try one next year before it's ripe, just for the experience). Thanks!!!!

Practical Parsimony said...

Over-ripe is they only way to eat them. Sometimes, even then you might get one not quite ripe. Usually, the are more wrinkly when they are ripe. If you ever get an astringent persimmon in your mouth...you are in trouble. Persimmon in the wild never have to be tended. There was one growing in the city that never got water, and the persimmon tree was quite productive. Then, they cut it down.

Practical Parsimony said...

I don't think you need to prune the tree. They always look raggedy.

Brenda said...

Well, this is good news! What a nice find!
At one of the lakes here in SC, there is a small island that we camp on...we call it persimmon island because of a grove of persimmon trees near a peninsula. There are always deer tracks under the trees! One morning we woke up to see deer swimming back to the mainland, we never even heard them munching persimmons on the island ))

Quinn said...

I think it's great that you'll be experimenting with your new-found crop, but I hope you'll also leave some for the wildlife? If they've had it to themselves all these years, they'd surely miss the food source if most of it suddenly disappeared right before Winter :)

1st Man said...

Now that is a neat story!! Thanks for sharing. And I bet that was something to see the swimming huh? They must be really good (to deer for sure) to swim over to get them. Thanks!!

1st Man said...

Well now isn't that a great suggestion....I didn't think about that. We do need to share some, after all, they've been munching on it for years too. Maybe I'll leave the low hanging ones and take some of the ones higher up. ;-) Thank you for the reminder.

1st Man said...

Cool, thank you for that info. I've been looking at some pics online and they do seem kind of raggedy, ha.

1st Man said...

Well isn't that they way they always do, pave paradise and put up a parking lot, ha. Thanks for the info. I hope I can get a few this weekend, but there is heavy rain in our forecast. I hope that doesn't knock them all off.

Quinn said...

:)